← All videos 0:28 praise the Lord glory to God it's another Friday night and I'm Mary Banks and I hope that you are just as blessed glory to God as you wanted to be praise the Lord God is so good this as I said it's another Friday night and we're here with some more Bible talk that's right we're going to be talking about uh an interesting subject tonight do you resent chastening that's a that's a question that all of us 0:58 need to we need to know I see someone out there nodding saying yeah I need that one praise the Lord do you resent the chastening of the Lord that's where we're going and and in in this discussion hopefully we'll be able to more Define chastening what what the chasing of the Lord really is glory to God and I have with me to uh to work with me tonight with this subject is none other than our very 1:28 own Bishop Daniel chin hello hi good evening praise the Lord Daniel this this subject is so I guess volatile okay okay because it can create some things in people the chasing of the Lord the chasing of the Lord as I said it can create some things and and sometimes those things that are created are not really good it it um be because it depends on how a person receives that chastening right now uh to lay our 1:58 foundation because everything we talk about we must have scripture we want we want to go to the scripture where we going first Hebrews Hebrews 12 okay Hebrews 12 and Hebrews 12 and I think maybe verse six verse six okay you want to read that or maybe maybe further up I don't know well let's see now let's start let's start um uh let's let's start back at um the third verse okay mhm it says for consider him 2:28 that endured such contradiction of Sinners against himself the contradiction of Sinners against him everything about a saint is being contradicted by Sinners that's true okay if we walk in Holiness you got to expect to be contradicted by this by those who don't know God Amen so God is saying consider Christ who endured he endured the contradiction he endured all of the reproaches he he endured all of those um those attacks yeah you know when when people 2:58 attacked his message they they attacked his lifestyle they attacked everything you know and so uh he says I want you to consider how Christ when he say consider him that endured he's saying I want you to consider how Christ handled it right because he's our only example well he's our he is our first example okay the apostles are uh right behind him in examples but he's our first example so he said now I want you to 3:28 consider him I want you to look closely at how Christ endured contradictions okay and and uh this is important Saints because when we think in terms of the chastening of the lord we don't always think in terms of being taught okay we don't we don't think in terms of being taught we we think of chastening only as punishment okay punishment but chasing the word chasing actually means Sun training right that's what it means it means Sun 3:59 training and sometimes that training calls for you know severe discipline sometimes it calls for God spanking us glory to God Amen but not always chastening is just really God training us amen and just like you you train your child you train your child Amen to do what you tell him to do do and if he is disobedient after you know that he understands what you're trying to teach him if he's disobedient then you have to spank 4:29 him or you know just pop him or something like that to so he can he'll know that you're serious about this and you you going going you're going to have to obey me right that's training glory to God and so training does include sometimes discipline amen discipline that we don't always like but glory to God I want you to I want you to think in terms of how Jesus handled contradiction how he and what what does 4:59 that contradiction when you hear the word contradiction in this particular verse Daniel what does it what does it say to you well I think it means that Jesus when he lived on this Earth he was doing some things and some people were against him right so if he said yes people said no you know and and but it went even further than just saying whatever he did people had a problem so there was always friction there 5:29 was always opposition to whatever he did um so the scripture is saying consider how he handled it consider what the oppositions were when Jesus lived on this Earth be mindful of it and he's going to explain it some more now notice what he says here he said consider him that endured uh this is Paul writing to the church the the Hebrew church he says consider them who endured such contradiction of Sinners right now when we read 5:59 the gospels when we read the four gospels right the most contradiction that Jesus received was from the scribes and Pharisees that is true the Stan hedrin Council he received more contradiction from them than he did the the regular people that's true the ordinary people and so what did they represent they were the ones that were put in charge of the word of God they they were given they were given the Oracles of God and they were 6:29 caretakers of those oracles they were the keepers of the law so this was the the the then church yeah that was the church and Jesus the scripture say Jesus came under the law yes okay he came under the law he didn't he he brought grace and truth from Grace and Truth came about after his crucifixion but he came under the law and he would made himself subject to the law so they were his superiors as related 7:00 to in the in the natural real of the church here on Earth they were the church on Earth and he came in submission to the law that they were supposed to be uh keepers of okay so he submitted himself to that law and and in doing so he realized that they weren't in submission to it they were uh talking a good game but they were not walking in what the law said they were they were putting 7:30 the burdens on the people but they weren't keeping the law themselves so I want us to consider that I want us to bring it home now let's bring it to the church now glory to God and and realize that there are leaders in the church even even on leadership boards even in Le on leadership board there's there's someone there's someone or some people that are always contradicting what leadership says okay always contradicting always contradicting always contradicting 8:00 like you said if they say yes then someone's you're going to have someone that says no EXA okay why do you think that is and you know sometimes it's not necessarily no but sometimes it's just a challenge just just it just has to be something right I don't know if anybody ever experienced someone like even working with someone and no matter what you say somebody's going to say well okay but have you consider this or you 8:30 know there's this and you know someone might position thems as the um the verse one to bring up things just just never just in agreement right but the question can be like so then are we not allowed to have our opinions or are we not allowed to say anything it's not a matter of that but there is a spirit that's contrary to the spirit that's trying to work in you exactly so like the the leader in 9:00 in this case the leader the Lord has instructed a leader to do something but those that have that mind that we're talking talking about they see it necessary to still insert themselves just to check just to check them make sure you're on the right track you know and I think that's that mind that doesn't honor the leader right um for whatever the reason that's a that's that's the spirit that that Paul is writing about here it's 9:30 a spirit of contradiction okay you know um Let me let me just can we just really be very candid I mean I think we it's time to be very candid about about such issues glory to God there is leadership there's those that are leading and those that are following okay now every leadership is not of God I have to submit that everyone that that that is leading in a leading in a church every Pastor every Bishop 10:00 whatever every overseer is not always following the Holy Spirit they're not always walking in righteous and some of them actually do abuse the Saints okay they abuse the Saints they take advantage of the Saints that's just real I want to put that disclaimer out there I am not talking about those leaders I am talking about leaders that are following God leaders that are doing their best to to to walk inside of apostolic order right what we'll 10:31 have and I've seen this in some of some some of the churches and not and and I thank God that it's not in a whole lot of Bible teachers churches amen I thank God for that but I've seen this coming up in in in Ministry and even in in at at times we we had this in our churches as well and in in one or two of the churches where a leadership board amen you have different 11:01 people that are that have actually made it to leadership you know they've been ordained now they they're considered senior senior leaders glory to God and so now you got a board you got you got this board and because you have this board of of people that Pastor now has has allowed these people to sit on a senior board that doesn't mean that they have to challenge everything the pastor says right right that just because you're you 11:31 have the privilege of being you know in uh leadership meetings and and and whatnot so that the leader can discuss with you what their plans are because leaders are taking their cues from headquarters yeah they're taking their cues from from their Apostle glory to God and those pastors are supposed to take that take uh whatever the design that God has given the Apostle they take that and give it to the pastor and the pastors now in 12:01 all fairness and and uh for for the sake of smooth transitioning they they bring their leaders together and let their leaders know what's what's happening what we're going to do this is what we're we're going to do and when they do that sometimes those people that are that are sitting on that board or with that leader amen they feel that they can always challenge whatever that leader brings whatever that leader brings they got a challenge for 12:31 it and as I said I'm not talking about unrighteous leadership I'm talking about leaders that are actually walking by the spirit of God and doing their best and they do not uh abuse the people of God uh they do not make merchandise out of them they just want to obey God and and see everybody make it in but just because you're you have the privilege now I because I've had to deal with this and I've said 13:01 to I've had to say to a pastor get them off there don't don't don't you no you don't need that every meeting has to be a debate okay are y'all working with me every leader every meeting uh has to be a debate the pastor can't just bring something and say this is what we're going to do you know when I bring when I when I had my leadership when I was pastoring a church um when I 13:32 was actually actively pastoring the church there in Fort Lauderdale and uh and and lesburg I I would if if God wanted if God told me something to do I would bring the leaders together right and let them know this is what this is what we we're going to do this is what I propos to do and at that time I would hear from them what do you think about this what do you you you know you 14:02 know what I mean I want to hear them I'm listening for how do we implement this what is going to be the the the best method to implement this I'm not I'm not putting that out there on the floor now for discussion for for discussion as to whether we're going to do it or not exactly no because the decision was made in heaven that we're going to do it are you are you working with that decision 14:32 was already made and so when we have you know we have when we have um leaders you know trying to make decisions that are always being challenged you got to make sure you're not walking in a spirit of contradiction that same spirit that Paul is talking about here a spirit of contradiction glory to God my son pastors this church right okay I am I am the um I am the I guess y'all call Chief Earthly chief 15:02 Apostle amen of the of the entire Ministry amen but I attend this church I attend this church and uh when when he wants to implement something or or or if he doesn't have to bring everything to me right you know that he because he's the pastor of the church and and but what he'll do because I am present here I am a i this is where I worship at he will run that thing by me glory 15:32 to God to see well mama can can you add to this you know he cuz he feel that God has has said for him to do s thing and so when he coming to me he's listening for wisdom as to how to implement how do how do I proceed or did I miss something you know that it I'm I'm going I was planning on doing it this way but I need to run it by her CU 16:02 she has a little bit more experience you know than I do so let me see if I've missed something but he didn't come to me for a contradiction to to what he's to what the thing is that God has said for him to do and those who are sitting on leadership boards I want I want you to I want I want you to examine yourself whether you have that Spirit of contradiction because what God is saying 16:32 now get rid of the contradiction wow I can't get any more plainer than that he said get rid of the contradictions in other words if if God is either God is going to be in control by way of the Holy Spirit or the board is in control right you know boards hiring fire leaders all over in a bunch of churches ain't doing it in Bible teachers you know board boards you know because if God call a 17:03 pastor amen if God calls a pastor amen then he's he should be able to pastor and and it's wisdom and a lot of the pastors have learned amen over the years in this ministry is wisdom to have people around you that are wise right the you know I if if I'm going to to to um run a church just like Michael is running this church it's good amen when he's thinking about things to talk to Dave 17:33 to talk to Phillip to talk to different ones amen and just see you know if they got some more wisdom to add to to add to him but because you are on a board amen you what is called a leadership board amen doesn't mean that you're there to contradict everything that leader does you know that's that that's that Spirit from Galatians right you know where it says uh the spirit Wars against the flesh that's when you 18:03 walking after the flesh you're going to war against that person walking after the spirit because because as as you said that that scripture says that those Spirits are contrary contr that's contradiction contradiction is the same thing contrary mhm it's always a contradiction always contrary now I want to say something else I want to say something here since you know this is this is our discipleship night can we can we just go with the Holy Spirit here 18:33 amen cuz cuz when we when we try to correct these things that's chasing okay to correct these things is chastening let me tell you something about God let me let me tell you tell you something there are people and I need you people over here to come forward some so I can see all of you amen I want to look you in your eyeballs amen move where I can see you praise the Lord um let me 19:03 tell you something about about the Holy Ghost in in in real leadership now I I like I said I'm not talking about people that are trying you know want to be leaders and or or or just you know shams I'm talking about real leadership that's led by the Holy Spirit we can see leaders that are led by the Holy Ghost have Vision they can see and and there are there are tactics like a better word and 19:33 if you you that are online if you have any questions about this please ask them there are tactics that Satan trained Us in he trained Us in tactics before we met God he trained us you you you know what I'm talking about Pastor he trained Us in tactics um subtleties cunningness craftiness you know before before we ever met God we we had we had a way you know we we had ways now when we when when 20:04 when you are in when you come into the kingdom of God and you in the view of you're in the the company in the environment of real leadership that leader is getting their accused from the Holy Spirit okay that leader is being shown what he has around him by the Holy Spirit yeah okay and a good leader will always be cognizant as to where each one of those people around him really are spiritually right okay he 20:34 will be cognizant of where they are spiritually um there are a certain tactics that people on that people come on boards or or or are uh let's see how to how to say this now like uh if you have a a a panel of of leaders let's say in in one Church let's just use a church as an example you have a panel of leaders in one Church let's say in one Church there are people that 21:04 are trained [Music] politicians they're trained politicians so they they they and this is a spirit of contradiction because they trained politicians trained in how to move themsel up the chain yeah yeah you know they they're trained in that the enemy trained them and so and some of their tactics are uh flattering the leader you know flattery um concern um but watch this now you can even take a thing like concern and I want you guys to 21:34 hear me out here and if you got any questions please please ask me um if you can take a an individual that can come with a concern you know um that they they and they've already realized that that that that concern is something the pastor is concerned about right yeah okay is something that the pastor is concerned about so they're going to come with that concern and um and and they are lay out there right they'll 22:04 lay out there that they're concerned and then uh and Pastor may just note the fact that you know just have a casual conversation but when that person leave there because they have laid it out that they have laid out their concern and they'll start to move move in dealing with that concern but that cons the the the area that they're dealing in may be someone else's Department sure yep y maybe maybe uh maybe someone else is 22:34 is over that area of ministry okay but now that they have discussed it with the pastor the pastor didn't say go ahead and do anything but because they have discussed with the pastor and they're going to take it upon themselves to go and do that's politicking because that person if that person that is responsible for that is has seniority what they're trying to do is circumvent that individual they're trying to circumvent that individual and take that 23:04 individual spot that's a spirit of contradiction that's a spirit of division that's a spirit that does not work uh with contentment where they are yeah the the where God has placed them and allow God to move them are are you working with me and and and we have seen a lot of politics in Ministry we've seen a lot of I see I'm saying this for all of you out there that are pastors and you have churches 23:35 glory to God you ought to be able to discern this and I'm saying this to those of you who are being the politicians in your church okay if you if you politician in the church glory to God then you need to check that spirit that political spirit that you have amen where you bringing um your you know your your your um Candace Candace candacy candes okay pronounce it if I can't pronounce it you pronounce it candy 24:05 candy oh okay okay whatever candidate okay okay okay you're you're the candidate and you you you you you're C you're politicking for a position that somebody else may be in you understand what I'm saying you're politicking for a position that someone else may be in so that Spirit of contradiction now instead of just us all working together and allowing the Holy Spirit to do appointments and and the Holy Spirit to move up and down or whatever 24:35 amen you you if you if you're not satisfied with where you are if you're that person that is always you know got to be at the top glory to God see some people don't don't mind they they they don't mind if they're not the leader as long as they are close to the leader right they they want that closeness with the leader and they politic their way to get there that's a spirit of contradiction that's their 25:05 cont contradicting the work of the Holy Spirit see because let's say you may have a uh Dave may have a a a a a skill yeah you know he may be electrical just like you you know just have have all these skills amen and he may be able he may be able to engineer things and whatnot but Daniel may be um in a position position of authority some position in the Church of authority and is you 25:35 know everything everything is under his administration he may be the administrator okay the church administrator or whatever so so everything that's going on in that church goes through through him you know he's because he's a church administrator but now Dave may feel like because he has the skill okay and he can do certain things so he now needs he wants to he wants Daniel position okay so he is he's politicking with his skill right right right 26:05 that's that's he's using his skill to to to to land his political campaign you know to to to further his political campaign in the church but now watch this now um why is Daniel in that position see see Dave may never even consider why Daniel is in that position all he knows it's a position close closer to the pastor you understand what I'm saying he he he's looking at Daniel is in a position closer to the 26:36 pastor than he is are y'all working with me yes ma okay and and he just wants a that position right and and um but he not he he hasn't considered that the reason the pastor put Daniel in that position is because Daniel is more spiritual than he is right Daniel may not know how to work lights and and build buildings and and drywalling and and all of that but he know how to build the household of 27:06 faith he know how he knows how to counsel he know he's spiritual he knows how to build amen the Tabernacle of God Amen that spiritual Tabernacle and that's more valuable to the pastor to have someone close to him that that he can trust to work in the hearts and minds of the people right than someone that can you can hire somebody to come in and do natural stuff right you can hire a sinat to come and 27:36 do that but that that person that that Pastor has in that position may be there because I need to be able to trust you to handle the lives of the people of God and see they would not even give that even a thought all he see is position he's just looking at position he that's a position I want that position and he'll politic for that position wow there's so much there's so much in this doc um 28:06 I have a scripture right just kind of lay a foundation here Romans 12 okay Romans 12:3 says for I say through the grace given unto me to every man that is among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think but to think soberly according as God had dealt to every man The Measure of Faith my Lord right uh and then it says for we we have many members in one body and 28:36 all members have not the same office right so just just to clarify right um scenario comes to mind um let's say anyone that that has ever seen doc do a broadcast knows that doc cares about lighting right a little bit before this we had a little um panto about you know how she looks on camera all of that so anybody knows right anybody knows lighting is important to Doc yes it is the producer agreed right so 29:06 so in in this scenario um someone with that Spirit would come to you privately priv and say Doc we we really need to fix this lighting right trying to press that button in you yes right and you of course will say yes darling Oh my God yes don't love I'm Ser I've I've been wanting that fix for so long right appealing to that passion in you and then that person you leave and said don't worry doc 29:36 I got it uhuh right right right next thing you know that person has gone to the head of the church church or the Brotherhood and says okay doctor has put me in charge of of the lighting right doctor has put me in charge and and they would now go on to to validate validate uh why it is that doc put me in charge because I've been doing this for years and I have an eye for these 30:07 things and I see what she's saying nobody else may see but I see what she's saying you know and before you know it that person is now in charge of of this thing because they called your name doc yes pluged their name in there and said doc said right and now they have positioned thems in there using skill using um politics cun craftiness cunning craftiness Sly wickedness really to try and find their way somewhere but as 30:37 and what they've done is displaced the person that was in charge exactly or so they think they think they have exactly because they're they're thinking of the church as any other organization right they think of it oh I have done this at work I am at at where I I'm in work because of my ability to do this right even in family even in just friendships I'm the head of the friend group I'm in charge of 31:07 the events or whatever because I'm good at this right but only to find out many times so many times I when that person does that I find out God will allow that you know let them do it and the leader he's put in place may say well if doc said so so okay MH but time goes by amen and time and God always is faithful to prove that first of all that skill that they say they 31:37 have that expertise that they that they brag about so much most times that's not even there right not even true it had nothing to do with the light they were really not that passionate about the light in the first place right what they were passionate about was being in charge having having the opportunity to say you know doc chose me over someone else and it's really it's really that I think James 4:1 says um lusts and 32:07 wars that come come among you from the lust that dwells in your heart that that's where the strives come from and see and and and and people that are there they're not used to uh the PE the leaders that have the that are being led by the spirit that oh yeah us to because it works with leaders that cuz see you're playing to the leader you're playing to to to the needs and whatever wants of the 32:37 leader and so they're not used to dealing with leaders that woe here you know that can discern that because leaders have people positioned Holy Ghost Field leaders that are following the Holy Spirit they have people positioned due to their spirit spirituality exact because there are people in in the church in the church born of God have the Holy Spirit you got to be have the Holy Spirit to be born of God they have the Holy Spirit 33:08 but they and they may be skillful sure at what they do they may be skillful at it but they cannot work with people right just can't work with people there are some people that have been in Bible teachers no matter where we put them we have to move them no matter what no matter what auxiliary you put them put them in if you put them over this auxiliary over that auxiliary wherever you got to move them 33:38 because see and this is something I want you guys to to really look at if if you put a person in position and nobody wants to work with that auxiliary anymore then you take them and you put them over here and nobody wants to work with that person anymore you put them over Yonder and nobody wants to work with it at some point you got to look at the common denominator is is you know if you're 34:08 that common denominator then you got to deal with why why what what am I doing what am I doing where nobody wants to work you know every auxiliary and and the leader can come and say because the leader responsibility is to train that person you see to bring the chastening of the Lord the train that person said look I cannot I need you to sit I need you to sit because you don't have righteous character yeah 34:38 yeah your character is what cause people not to want to work with you okay if that leader comes to that person now that person sees that as a contradiction right you know they see that they they feel the leader is against them now and so now they now you started a whole uh World War II a private what you call Cold War they Civil War a civil Cold War you know that that you know what a 35:08 a cold war is all that that adversity without actually firing a bullet oh really okay yes so there a lot of adversity without nobody launched any nuclear weapons or anything but there's a cold war wow there's a they're they're at odds with one another I did not know I just thought it was in the winter I didn't know that he's going to be all 35:36 right you literally thought a cold war was Daniel please I didn't I didn't know no cold war is is when is when there's fighting they're fighting verbally or they're fighting with with with um sanctions and are they're talking about one another and they it's it's it's almost like a threatening of War wow but but they don't they don't even go almost to the threat but you know the threat exists and they're at odds with one another amen and so that's 36:06 what happens in the church you get that cold war going on when that leader comes and say to that person look you you don't work well with people yeah you're the you're the common denominator here you need to sit and and develop character the character of Jesus Christ that's chastening that's that leader coming and saying I need you need to be trained because you you you you don't you don't have people skills you don't you don't work well with people 36:36 or it's not so much his skill it's usually it's character they don't have spiritual character they may be good at you know you put them on the Mia board they may be good at oh we can do the glasses this way and the napkins that way and and the tablecloths and d d but you can't the people that are under you wow they you don't add anything to them spiritually right you should not be the leader of that board the 37:06 leader of that board should not only teach people how to do natural things but should add to them spiritually that's what a president of an auxiliary is supposed to do are y'all working with me amen amen that's what the president of an auxiliary is supposed to do they're supposed to add to the spiritual development of that of that of that those people that are working with them they are an extended hand of the leader MH you know that that auxiliary 37:36 president and so when you find you got a person in leadership uh a president of a board or whatever and they're not producing or they are incapable of adding to those people spiritually they need to be removed they need to be removed from that board because you're cheating those people if they can't disciple and um for a a very good uh What will happen is when you when you tell them that they need to sit down and develop character they 38:06 they enter into a cold war okay you know they may stay home they don't they they come to church whenever they feel like it or they they're sending a message right that's what they do in cold Wars they they they they send a message each side is sending a message you know and so they sending a message by abstaining from this and abstaining from that and and da d da d da and whatnot and so uh that's a spirit of 38:36 contradiction they're contradicting what the Holy Spirit wants to do in their lives yeah they're they're simply contradicting that another thing is um a very good example of of of the opposite of that uh when I look at the opposite of that now my daughter my daughter uh Jessica she has a she has a Ministry that God gave her right she has a Ministry that God gave her and um and she is she is sitting in a church among some people 39:06 that have been saved and under this word a lot longer than she has right uh God gave her the ministry that she that she has and she has she is making so many strides I mean she it's the ministry just flourishing glory to God but she is wise enough to know I need some support here you know I need some spiritual support you know I need some backup you know I I know how to how to how to witness Christ 39:36 but now I'm dealing with a lot of women here that got some issues they got some real deep issues so I I need an anesta with me I need a Chenise with me I you know I need a whoever you know to to be there amen I may even need a doc there sometime to uh Peter Gale some some you know I need some spiritual help here because I know that there are certain things I may be able to handle 40:06 but there's certain things I may not be able to handle and so she welcomes that infiltration of other gifts right you know other other wisdom amen but there are some that that it it like for instance now when she when she has her her Gathering she gathers all the ladies together she is she knows how to take cues from those who are more spiritual you know if she's got an A Nesta there if she takes a person to a to 40:36 a certain point and Anessa knows that that person need to be we need to go a little bit further into that Anessa going to jump in there by by her nature it's it's going to be her nature to just jump in and bring and bring it on home or or or your niece would do the same thing or Peter girl or whatever the because they they've been trained they to see where the where the people are and and and to 41:06 know what is needed yeah in in that situation and and now it what it does all of them working together makes that Ministry so good to other people want to come so it's growing it's growing is is just growing out of bounds you know but that's because she's not working in a spirit of contradiction yeah she's not working in a spirit she's not the one that sits there and say well well this is my thing and and and and and 41:36 uh y'all just you know no we we're we're not going to get too spiritual here now we're not going to be you know we just we just we're just going to have some Leisure what's the purpose of bringing people together if you're a saint if not to introduce Christ right to bring Christ into their situations bring Christ into their circumstances bring Christ into their relationships that that's our purpose in life and so the people that are working with her they 42:06 know that she knows that so they work in harmony right and and now it's being fruitful it's being fruitful and now we we're seeing fruit outside of the walls of the church this is is becoming very fruitful and so when when you can't work like that you have a spirit of contradiction wow you have a spirit of contradiction and you're contradicting what the Holy Spirit wants done any questions praise the Lord there there there's a question okay we get her 42:36 to mic um there's a question online um asking this Same Spirit that we're talking about mhm you've spoken about it from the perspective of someone trying to reach I guess up to the head leader trying to get an association there but what about the pastor or whoever is in charge can that political Spirit still apply to like a pastor working that that same tactic the candidacy and things like that in the church in the church among the members yes among 43:06 the members if a Pastor is doing that then he has a he he has he or she has an objective an agenda to to um manipulate the congregation right so so he politics to get this one these this set over here doing this thing this set over here in a certain Arena he he has a reason for doing he has an agenda to do it and it's not godly yeah it's not godly and and and usually when you see a 43:36 pastor doing that he wants to make sure that he's turning this group against that group or this person against that person and or um setting setting and see when you do that you're setting this particular group over here that you that you that you you favor you're setting them up to to to treat this this set the way you treat them yeah you're setting them up to think the way you think you see and to and to interact with them 44:06 you know according to the way you would interact with them you see so he had that Pastor has an agenda yes pastors do do that in their congregation it's they do that in order to control they they they do it to control man I think we had a question oh yes is it on is the mic on testing mic I think it is on hear um I heard like the spirit of Pride like the same spirit that Satan used what 44:36 that Satan was using when he went to try to become the the head minister of Music in Heavens so is that the same is that like is that to the level degree of the punishment that you a person walking in the spirit Division and contradictory is that the same level degree that God will deal with them in that make sense well this is what's dangerous about walking in contrad ition when you walk in contradiction in the church you are offensive 45:06 to the Holy Spirit you're offensive to the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit you you don't know when you are going to cross the line dealing with the Holy Ghost and so yes it can be very dangerous you could drop dead M you know uh sappire and ananas came in just told a lie to the to the to the leader just died and both of them died both of them just dropped dead and Peter asked them why do you lie 45:36 to the Holy Spirit they thought they were lying to the man but they were lying to the holy spirit amen and they just dropped dead so you don't know you know you don't you don't know when you're cross that line and you just you know either drop dead or or an Affliction come upon you I remember one guy uh the Lord he crossed that line and God he uh he God struck him with Leprosy wow and and told him him 46:06 and his seed forever would be lepers wow him and his seed and the kids wern't even there you and your so when he went back home if he had some kids already at home they would they had them turned into lepers wow yeah he said you and your seed forever will be lepers amen and so uh you know you don't know when you cross that line it's not cuz see in the church let me let me explain something to you 46:36 guys in the church in the church you're dealing you're in the kingdom of God and when you bring in that Spirit of contradiction you are contradicting the Holy Ghost cuz he is the government of the Kingdom yeah you understand what I'm saying he is the government of the Kingdom so when you bring in a spirit of contradiction you're not just dealing with the people in there you're dealing with him you're dealing with the Holy Spirit you're dealing directly with God 47:07 so you opposing God you know and and they and and I thank God in Bible teachers they don't last long right they they don't that Spirit of contradiction doesn't last I tell you something else doesn't last long in Bible teachers cunning craftiness something else that doesn't last long is politics Amen in in in politicking in the ministry amen for you know in can you know campaigns and whatnot they don't last long in Bible teachers because we discern them we discern 47:37 it and we say we're just you you know sometimes we don't even say anything right we don't even say anything we just put safeguards in place yeah we we put up put put safeguards in place and and people are aware yeah people are very much aware of of the intent of that Spirit they know that is spirit and we know how to entertain it with love and constrain it at the same time yeah we entertain it and constrain it at 48:07 the same time so it it it makes no Headway M doesn't get in Headway you know doc one of the things that we can use to identify even that Spirit another thing that a person walking in that Spirit does you can easily identify this they're very quick to accuse yes let's let's go back to the lighting example okay right they would say oh whoever put up these lights they didn't do a good job they didn't do this quite right you're 48:37 not supposed you know and yes there's correction and acknowledging yes maybe you know cuz I did that and it's probably an right right but there's there's a difference between that and trying to look for that as an Avenue to exalt yourself exalt yourself to to validate your own self um and I have no respect for that right I have absolutely no respect for that because what what you're doing is you're under trying to undermine the other person amen if there's 49:07 a if there's a correction that needs made you know the right way to do that go to the person that did it say hey man let's look at this right here let me show you something and make that make that person better yeah exactly make that person better you don't have to have the get the you know all the credit for doing it and all of that doing it right go back to the person that did and say hey man 49:37 let me did you think about this right here let me show you something da da da d da and and and pour your expertise into that other person that's the way you do it exactly anything other than that is contradiction exactly anything other than that is contradiction uh huh don't have and and and the leader doesn't even have to know anything about it exactly you know but if you but if you don't have the right motives oh I'm going to 50:07 know everything or that leader is going to know you know that they did it and you know and all of that they had to fix it and blah blah blah blah whatever you know we've got to stop competing in in the body of Christ there should be no competition in the body of Christ another form of um um another form of um contradiction is and and this this this is a big one because we we're in the midst of uh 50:37 we're in the midst of a generation now that is going to usher in the Antichrist and the coming of Our Lord okay and so the Bible said in these last days there will be scoffers you know and and and let me tell you let me tell you one of the elements of of of scoffers scoffers will always notice what notice what Peter said about scoffers he said you said there would be they would ask the question well where is where 51:07 is the sign of his coming he you've been saying that for for 100 years now he's still not back yet okay what is the what is the purpose of a scoffer a scof for is to get you to disbelieve God yeah that's so true that's the purpose of a scoffer to get you to disbelieve God Amen um please keep the scripture up on the board because I want to come back to it thank you very much um I have seen 51:37 I have seen this operation where God will say something God will say something you see the scripture see God is not going to tell you anything that the scripture doesn't validate right if God tell you something scripture going to validate it right there are some people that God told us to come out from among okay mhm he said he said Christ has no Concord with baale Right light has no fellowship with Darkness Mike taught a very good lesson on Fellowship 52:07 what the difference between fellowship and um what was it it was huh I'm sorry ministering and fellowshipping okay um for instance like if I I can't if if if a sinner's out there I can minister to that sinner but I can't go to the places that sinner goes I can't fellowship with him in his ways and his things that he does amen and and if God tell us to come out from among them and if he tell us now there's 52:37 a scripture that says Christ has no Concord with baale and there's another scripture that tell tells us that um there are some people that God turned over to reprobate right that God turn over to reprobate let me show you something in uh in the church in the church if God we're talking about the kingdom of God if God turn you over as a reprobate because you are just disobedient and and God now has you've crossed the line you you you 53:07 you're destruction to God's people your destruction to what God is trying to do in his people yeah you're you're you're destructive and you never repent you never ever repent of the destruction that youve wrought in the lives of God's people yeah God does not if and if God say if God tell tell your leader says now separate from that leave that alone I'm I'm done with that I'm done with that if God tell me that he's done with something I'm 53:37 done with it right if he tells me I'm done with it and he tell me to separate from it then that's what I'm going to do right okay now if God tells your leader that if you if got see so we're not talking about uh leaders that are just crooked and try to separate families or separate people and and have people that odds with one another and don't speak to this one and don't speak I'm not even talking about that 54:07 foolishness that's foolishness in God's house but I'm talking about if someone is actively being used by the devil to the point where God turns them over to reprobate do you know what that means to be reprobate means cast us Cast Away to be reprobate means they can't even repent they can't even repent they they they can't they can't even they they don't they never get the mind to repent the Bible say he turned to a reprobate mind yeah that's a 54:37 Cast Away reprobate means to cast away and so their mind they never have the mind to repent they they never they and they always defend their actions yeah and they always lie yeah that's the that's the that's the um characteristics of a reprobate they always they have the character of Satan they Liars Satan was a liar from the beginning and they are Bonafide liars and if and when God turned a person over to reprobate and and your leader is trying 55:07 to protect you from that and the leader says look God has God has judged this situation and you know think about it now look look at look look at this guy let's go back to this guy um Simon Okay Simon was following Peter right yeah he was following and and uh well he was following Philip first and then Peter came down and he start following following Peter he was a sorcerer M and he wanted to he wanted to he wanted 55:37 to buy the Holy Spirit right when he saw the power of the Holy Spirit he wanted to buy it and what did what did Peter do Peter said you you you and your money both perish you know he he judged him right there my God and Simon Simon said what glory to God and Peter walked on off and and Simon come begging him please man pray pray for me don't let this thing happen take it I take it back I 56:07 take it back glory to God but what I'm trying trying to show you is that that God used Peter to judge him right there well God judged him God said you and your money perish he did the same thing with cesah he told him said you and your loved ones going to take the the the the leprosy that was on nonon will be on on you now so what is God saying I'm through with you I'm done with you what 56:37 did he do with Saul glory to God he came and took his Spirit off of sa and gave him a a an evil spirit glory to God God has judgment yeah and so when God looks at looks at how detrimental a person is to his creation to his church to his precious Saints glory to God you can that person can easily cross the line with God and God will turn them over to reprobate or whatever move them out glory to 57:07 God sometimes it's just good for God to just chass them I I I I would say Lord just chastise me don't don't turn me over to rep probate just just chasten me me you know just just chasti whoop me knock me down do whatever put your foot on me whatever but don't turn me reprobate to where I can't even repent my Lord I I can't repent That's what Satan is Satan can't repent he's a reprobate glory to God don't don't 57:37 don't give me over to that glory to God and and and and sometimes when you can you the leader leaders can say look I'm trying to protect you from this this the these people are reprobate God God say leave that alone don't don't do that and but now watch this watch what happened here the spirit of contradiction again watch what the spirit of contradiction will do the spirit of contradiction say yeah but that's my friend that's my friend you know 58:07 and I I I I I love my friend I mean that doesn't matter to God God you don't think God love him right God loved them before you did amen God loved them before you did and when you talk like this people think you're insensitive no I'm in servitude I'm not insensitive I'm in servitude I have to I have to be in servitude to the spirit of God yeah and and and when you're in servitude to the spirit of God 58:37 that goes beyond your sentiments that goes beyond your sentiment let me tell you right now if God told Michael Thomas Michael Thomas and I are just like this amen we are we are are like two PS in a part when it come down to loving one another but if God told Micha Thomas that I was a reprobate he'd depart for me he would depart he would if God told you he wouldn't follow me in Ministry yeah there's no way he 59:07 will follow me if God told Tanya Thomas that your mother is a rep probate and and she will have her place in Hell there's no way Tanya Thomas going to follow me right if God told s Thomas that and they and and and my children love me right they love me but that that sentiment that they have for me does not Trump God that amen your sentiment does not change God's judgment are are you hearing me it doesn't change God's 59:37 judgment and and and when when when when we see see what God would do is will let you see destruction he'll see how he'll let you see how destructive a person was or is you know he'll let you see there D how destructive they are and how how how they damaged people and da d d he'll let you see that and then he'll let you see the repair of it okay he'll let you see his spirit and what his Spirit 60:07 can do how his Spirit goes and mens the breach yeah okay but what is he what is he doing he telling you now leave that alone and go with what I'm doing that's what he's doing he's saying leave that alone and go with what I'm doing and if I can't do that if I can't do that why why because Daniel's my friend right because I love Daniel but Daniel God say is a reprobate and why why why am I still 60:37 going to be so close to Daniel I I'm just loving Daniel if that's the case then there's something in me yeah that's not right because you know why I would say that because when God speaks the thing inside of you called conscience Bears witness what what God says it Bears witness with what God say and so so you're not at the mercy of trying to determine whether the leader is right or not when that leader speak you you can your 61:07 spirit will tell you that's God your spirit will tell you that what you see with your own eyes tell you that you see what you see with your own eyes glory to God and so we we leaders we try to protect our people from being unequally yolked with people that are you know that are walking outside of the boundaries of the faith amen why are we yolked up with people that are walking outside of the bound of the faith when 61:37 the scripture say how can two walk together except they agree see there's something in you that's in agreement with that person that God has said I'm done with I'm done with that huh there's something in you that can't let that that that to go why something in you something in you that is contradictive to God is contradicting the Holy Spirit you see and and and people think well you just you know nobody's going to tell me who going to be 62:07 my friend and and who I'm going to love and this and that no sure isn't doesn't mean that I sto loving doesn't mean that I that I stop loving you but I can't fellowship with you I just can't fellowship with you there a lot of people I grew up with that I love dearly you know and I really want to reach him with the gospel and every chance I get I try to minister to him but I can't fellowship with 62:37 him I I couldn't go on on our you know how those uh reunions and stuff because of the things that they were doing I that's I'm not a part of that you know I can't go to these clubs you want to go go to and and and party and all of that that's not who I am so you know I can if I you're in a setting where I can minister to you okay but I can't fellowship with you I 63:07 can't I cannot fellowship with you so why are we so caught up in fellowshipping with those who are outside of the bound boundaries of the faith that there's something in us that agrees with that thing that that negative thing that's in them you know we have to be very careful that uh John says this uh I wrote unto the church but that how you pronounce Diop diatrus whatever di free fees who love it to have the preeminence among them received 63:37 us not see this see and that's that's that Spirit of contradiction why do I need to have preeminence over people and this happens this happens in um groups this happens in like like uh friendships you know groups in in in in friendships um people can there can be a set of friends and and and somebody in that group I I I had this encounter in one of the churches someone in that in that it was a group of ladies and 64:07 and one of the ladies in group just wanted to be their leader she wanted to be the leader in that group she she she she she uh housed herself uh promoted herself as more spiritual than them and more this and more that and and and I looked at that and I said you better be careful here be careful here this is a spirit of preeminence amen and that person wanted the preeminence among those people glory to God and and watch 64:37 what happened something you said time will bring about a change time would tell all things all it takes is a little time glory to God and that person has been outside of the boundaries of the faith for years now and those people that they wanted to preeminence in are still in the faith and working in the faith advocating Christ advocating righteousness advocating Holiness glory to God and fruitful in it glory to God because why because we actively identified that's a 65:07 spirit of preeminence leave that alone leave that alone leave that alone are you are you working with me cuz sometimes when you let your sentiments cuz this is your friend you let your sentiments override the Holy Spirit that's a spirit of contradiction yeah if the Holy Spirit say look this is not good for you then listen if it's not good for you listen listen to why why is it not good for me because because if if the person that's telling 65:37 you that it's not good for you if they are of God then your spirit will bear witness with it your spirit will bear witness so what is God saying God is saying if you can't hear my spirit why why can't you hear my spirit why does not not my spirit bear witness either you don't have the spirit hello or you prefer unrighteousness you prefer you you prefer that conradie you prefer to Conrad with iniquity you prefer to Conrad with unrighteousness 66:07 amen praise the Lord okay we have another question there's some questions online Okay um so someone is asking if this is the same as causing Discord or throwing Discord among the Brethren as the scripture says yes it is um um contradiction always brings Discord wow it's causes uh contention glory to God it causes contention uh among the Brethren it cause contention Amen in the household of faith it causes uh contention amen with leadership it just it's just contentious all the 66:37 way around all the way around another one okay you have another one sure um we get these online then we'll come to you so someone is asking that critical spirit that we spoke about someone is asking if that's iniquity having a critical Spirit having a critical spirit um see there's there's a difference in criticizing you know that we in when we were in school they said do constructive criticism see when when when when when constructive critic criticism means that I'm 67:07 not trying to tear you down and make you look bad right right you know and I do it in a spirit that doesn't tear you down or make you look bad man cuz I can come to you and say Daniel um you know you did a great job job on this right here but this part right here you need to look look at again you know I have criticized your work but I did in a spirit of love you know 67:37 and or did I criticize maybe I was just trying to make you better just just make you better make show you how to do it better now cuz I used I I used to oh Lord Jesus I had to I had to ask myself amen are do you have a spiritual criticism because I used to get on Daniel all the time oh 68:02 my I used to get on him so bad amen work ethics and different things you know amen cuz I wanted him to be the best I wanted him to be so good at what he was doing and I said no no no no no you can't do it like this you got to do this D amen and every time he do something I come back okay you're proud of it I'm not you know because this you didn't do this and you didn't do that and you 68:32 didn't but now Daniel and I have a relationship and and and I know he loves me and I know he knows I love him and and and when I come when when I come and say you know it it it can be irritating for someone to look at your work and you think you you done you done you know you on the mountain toop because you you finished it glory to God and then they you they somebody come that ain't that's not finished every single time 69:02 every I said I said that ain't finished you didn't do this you didn't do that d d d GL to God but over the over the years M you know staying in the right posture right glory to God now that same work that I was criticizing has become his profession and it's what's taking care of his him and his family now amen and is one of and his is most sought after he's very sought after after in his profession now people are coming to him he 69:32 doesn't have to go look for it they coming to him from all over the the world coming to him to do do the work he doesn't have to go looking for them so what I'm saying is that there's a way to correct you know without making a person feel like you're trying to tear them down right you you know you you have to make a person know that you just want them to be better I want you to be better but you got to make sure 70:02 that they feel that mhm they need to feel that before they entertain this negative that you're about to show them okay they need to know what is your motive right what is your motive for for telling me I'm you know and and it's not even a matter of like how you say things cuz you know you can go there oh you just need to say it nice or you need to say a positive before you say a negative kind of soften the blow which she doesn't 70:32 but it's it what what makes the difference get better what makes the difference is her intent you can all I could always feel her intent that she's not just getting at me you know she's not just trying to tear me down trying to make me feel like I'm no good all of that it's you could I could tell even in the the bluntest and harshest of of criticism if we want to use that word um I would always know at the end of it after I 71:02 wipe my tears and start over again after all of that I would still know that it's is going to make me better though you know and that is a whole different experience than someone whose intent is to Simply break you down or they're trying to take your spot or they're trying to um get you out of the way or trying to get you to give them you know give them your your place as if it's mine to give or anything you know but I I believe 71:32 it's it's the intent of the heart that's felt in those interactions you know cuz we're in a church here um Pastor star will tell you we believe in confrontation right and and sometimes the confrontation it doesn't we forget to say the nice thing before we say you know what we're really here to say right you know but but what's always felt is the intent the intent is always that you change not that I'm just here to just beat you up just because I can right you 72:02 know yeah amen praise the Lord you had a question sweetie I'm sorry I always have questions go ahead baby I like what first quickly uh I want to kind of recap what you saying about reprobate mind sir are you saying from what I got from what you said a reprobate mind is is the purpose of a reprobate reprobate mind is to have demonic influence on God's kingdom and Saints actually a reprobate when a Pur when a person is reprobate it means that God has cast them 72:32 away from the kingdom I mean walking in the spirit of a reprobate mind is to have like demonic influence on God people yes okay I want to just clarify that yes there there are people when when when they walk outside of the boundaries of the faith uh there are some people uh I remember having a conversation one day with a lady um and and the and and I was sitting across from this person and I and and I said this I said you know I said 73:02 what you do with the saints of God it's not right I said you take this one and you put them there you take this one and you put them here you you you you you manipulate this one over here man put this one over there against that one and then you put this position this one over here against that one and that person looked at that sitting right across from me I'm counseling this person sitting right across me this is a truth before God look looked 73:32 at that and say yeah I'm good I said but that's manipulation and that's witchcraft it is to manipulate the Saints against one another yeah and and when you when you look at that when someone is you think about this now when someone is telling you that someone is a pastor is sitting here I'm sitting here telling you this is what you do and you say yeah I'm good what is that there's there's there's that's control that's that you you P you in your congregation you p 74:02 and this person was a was a leader they P this one against that one and that one against that one and have this one doing what you want them to do and have that one doing your dirty work and this one over here and and and it's you know just wreak havoc in the church and and when I said that they didn't you know you would expect the person say no I don't I don't think I I do that I'm not that bad or D or 74:32 whatever they would say I didn't I was I was stuck that when they said yeah I'm good that was who was I talking to I'm talking to the that's the devil saying I'm good at that and and and rejoicing in it right taking pleasure in dividing the Saints pitting the Saints against one another who does that Satan Satan does that and so so we we you know and and now what do you do with a person like that do you do you just fellowship with them 75:02 when they didn't already told you yeah I'm good keep them in leadership say you keep them in leadership you you you put them in you put them in in the sheep fold with the Sheep God when they've already told you I'm I'm good right I know I I know what I do and I'm good at it so so what is but now if you try to protect the Sheep you're going to have some of those sheep going to be goats because they're going to they're going 75:32 to come with a spirit of contradiction because this person that's doing this is their friend or their buddy that's that that's their buddy so so I you know what do you mean depart I'm not departing okay okay I the there I've I've been in um I'm talking about a spiritual contradiction I want you to think about this and some of you have been in this situation you can be in a Ministry you can be in a Ministry let me tell you something you can be in 76:02 a Ministry where that leader of that Ministry can weave a spiritual web over that congregation right a spiritual web and every one of the people that in that Ministry are caught in that web and don't even know they caught don't even know they caught and and and and and when they when they when that web is weaved you know a web a spider's web is is sticky and and and and it catches flies and other insects and and they can't move once they get stuck they 76:32 they can't move and and the and the spider just devours them because they can't move so I've seen whole congre ations we the the the leader weave that web and the people are mean or or some of the people are very mean and and and conniving and to have the spirit of the leader some of the people are docile they they they they they love the Lord but they they you know they might have got saved in that Ministry or you know they they they went 77:02 there when they was in in in looking for God and and they thought they found God there and and they got stuck there glory to God and and and they didn't know what they were walking into but before they knew it they were trapped in that web they were trapped in that web and the only thing that will free them from that Pastor is truth yeah that's the only thing and and and and I and I I had a church like that once I had a 77:32 church like that I had to go in cuz that Pastor weaved that web and I had to go in and I had to I I said Lord what do I do he said preach the truth yeah he said you preach the gospel you preach the gospel teach my people the truth see if the word of God doesn't change things nothing else will on you don't need no tactics you don't need to low rate anybody you don't need to just you know you know just down people 78:02 and talk about people from the pull pit and low rate them and all of that kind of stuff you don't have to do that just preach the gospel preach the preach Jesus Christ just preach Christ him crucified and the power of the Holy Ghost what is the power of the Holy Ghost not only externally but what is the power of the Holy Ghost in you and and and and when you preach that truth people will begin to see themselves I'm bound they didn't they didn't even 78:32 know they were bound people don't know they bound until they get loosed glory to God you tie a dog up glory to God for 20 years and glory to God and he he know he you set it free he don't even know he can go beyond that those 10 ft that he was he was walking around in glory to God he GL he don't even know he free right he glory to God so that's the same way with the church glory to God when when that 79:02 web when Satan weaves that web over people whole congregations whole congregations I've seen I've seen that happen I've seen I've entertain people that come out of situations like that and you know it's a blessing when you can come out out of a situ situation like that wanting to serve God in righteousness yes yes righteousness but I see so many people come out of that situation out of anger out of offense and they come out and you know what they do they have the same Spirit of 79:32 that leader that they just left they they they they're they're they're B they're they're proud and stubborn and lifted up and and the word of God means nothing you can tell them the word you can teach them the word you can say wait a minute baby the way you think about this is not right the word says this the word they will contradict you every time so that they can have their way they'll do the same thing that they accuse the person of that they were 80:02 under right they come out and do the same thing so when you could come out glory to God and raise your hand to God in in in righteousness in truth and not seeking retribution not going after all of that foolishness glory to God you blessed amen you blessed because you done the truth done broke that thing off of you but there are people that come out from under that spell and still un end the spell and they become the ones now that perpetrate the spell because 80:32 they they now do the same thing the same thing they have the same Spirit they have that that that that Spirit of of of haleness that Spirit where you can't you can't tell them anything you can you can show them in scripture what the scripture say and they'll find a way to refute that they they they have no regard for for for righteousness glory to God if it contradicts what they want to do glory to God and so that Spirit of contradiction will take you to 81:02 hell it will take you straight to hell are y'all hearing me it will take you straight to hell and so we have to be very careful we have to be very careful that when the word of God come we make the word law yeah let the word be law for your life glory to God no matter what man says let the word be law no matter what your emotions say let the word be law what your sentiments say let the word be law amen praise the 81:32 Lord and you know just just finally from me um what you just said about sometimes it can be where you're coming from because even going back to the contradiction as we started at the beginning mhm you may operate in that Spirit of contradiction because that's that's what you know right you may have been in an environment where you had to sell yourself all the time you had to politic you had to Cain and your leader may have enjoyed that enjoyed seeing everyone fight fight and and 82:02 step on each other just to get to him or her you know you may be coming from that but I want to encourage that one that that's God has no such law especially not in his assembly that's right you know that's that's not a way that he intends amen you know God chooses who he chooses in his timing the Lord says even in the scripture wait on your ministry he has a way of putting you where you're supposed to be exactly you know and you can 82:32 come in like you said with skills with things that you can do things that you have done before and you can you can be very ego now that you've like you said now that like you said you've that leash has been taken off and you're very eager to do this and that but God also has in to wait on your ministry because if you don't have patience you will go right back to those operations you used to walk in and you will now try and strive 83:02 you'll try and sell yourself hearing you try and break this one down there because you're so eager you know to to do all that's in you to do amen but that's not the way to do it that's not the way to do it because that doesn't get you anywhere all that gets you is humbled you know and and God just showing you this is why you're not there M you know you can look at different things that you may have the skills to do and want 83:32 to do but you have to wait until you are developed to do that because the person you're looking at like you said in that position or that spot you might sing better or you might do lights better or you might do video better but in God's house the the priority is your character is your character that's you can be and I've seen it so many times come on you know come on there's been so many skillful people pass right through this ministry enough you know not 84:02 having the character to stay and God is wise he's not going to put you in leadership until he can trust your character you know and he would rather put someone there with character than someone with skill I've seen it so many times with the soundboard I don't know what it is with a soundboard but it it evokes much pride I don't know if they feel like they're in charge of everything right and I've seen people sound Engineers come in knowing more than Yanik poor Yanik right 84:32 just has a heart to serve coming in and fighting with him and whatever come in go right back out why because it's character it's character you know and and that's how God's house is run it's run by his anointing not by skill my God praise you Lord amen this has been so good praise the Lord amen I don't think there are any more questions online glory to God I I hope you guys have enjoyed it tonight glory to God amen glory to God and we God 85:02 has said so much to us tonight and and I hope you go back and and and listen to the watch this video again and also send it out send it out share this video with with all your contacts take take it you know all over everybody this think how far this video would go if you would just take the time to share it right share it with people that you know need to hear this kind of discipleship amen that's what this has been it's it's a 85:32 good time of discipleship it's a good time and and I want to say this if you have any questions things you want me to teach on things you want to be brought up in discipleship on these Friday nights discipleship sessions amen please uh send it put it put it in the um where did it put it in the chat box right yeah in the comment section in the comment section amen and and and send it to 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end of the month and we still got some lingering things to take care of Amen uh good to see you Pastor Scott amen Angela Scott up in Atlanta there the sand cards down in uh Trinidad Saints I got to tell you about Trinidad amen another broadcast amen I'm going to tell you about Trinidad amen just just such an awesome Ministry down there amen the San cars and and U sister Lee glory to God and brother Charles they just doing such 87:32 an awesome job down there Amen in Trinidad I tell you I was I I one of the things I said today about Trinidad we were talking we were in A discipleship session this afternoon and I I was sharing with them that when I went to Trinidad I saw the early church I saw the early church how they how they uh started ministry praise the Lord yeah you can see it when you go to Trinidad glory to God and Saints I just love you and and and 88:02 and I want all us to make it to Heaven that's I that's that's what's important to me amen for all of us to get to heaven I'm 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